Emma Watson’s Acting = Rubbish
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An insider working on Half-Blood Prince lets out the truth about Emma’s performance on set, ” There was just a lot of people (crew, etc.) moaning about how rubbish she is at acting”. And it seems even David Yates is not too happy with Emma, either.
I have nothing new too report, sorry. I don’t think Emma’s a bitch. There was just a lot of people (crew, etc.) moaning about how rubbish she is at acting. I have to admit she is pretty rubbish at learning her lines, her double learnt them quicker than her.
Well a lot of the crew thinks David Yates would rather have Hermione played by Emma’s double rather than her.
Source: Phoenix123 @ IMDB
Thanks to our forum member henrypotter for letting us know! View the discussion topic HERE.
sounds like whoever said this *coughs* bullshit *coughs* is number one jealous and/or friends with whoever emma’s double is. of course none of us know who emma’s double is because the double was NOT cast to play Hermione. Emma “one-take” Watson, as she’s known on-set, was cast and i doubt that’s going to be changing anytime soon.
emma memorizes her lines better than anyone but i don’t think she can act so i don’t know what to think about this. she’s beautiful and smart but her eyebrows and over acting gets to me sometimes..not all the time but still. i bet for sure she’s a lot prettier and smarter than her double but it’s true her acting can be over rated sometimes. she gets tons of popularity awards. she isn’t horrible but she’s not that great either.
This is definitely from an Emma hater. Not real at all. Do you fuckers ever get tired of hatin on her? Guess not.
this piece of news = rubbish
that’s a better title.
emma rocks, and remember she’s been acting since she was 11.. back then she wasn’t a pro. the same now, so don’t expect her to be the second anthony hopkins. whoever wrote this crap is just as jealous as hell.
If this guy works, on the HP set, and that’s a big if, he’s probably a janitor. Complete bullshit.
Well we know she’s rubbish, always has been. That breathy delivery and those eyebrows, she should quit acting now and go back to living as an anon person in Oxford.
I bet this guy try to be cute with Emma and she probably thought he was a perv, I think Emma has hurt this guy, sorry dude not everyone can be as charming as Mr Radcliffe!
I love emma and I won’t stop loving her because of this. But I know she’s not a good actress. I mean, that “i think it’s a gift” bla bla bla thing, It’s a gift if you’re AL Pacino, or Sean Peen! But GOD she’s nor even gooda at acting. She’s not afraid of the cameras, that’s all.
I think Rupert’s the one who deserves all the prices and stuff and he hasn’t got anything amazing. Emma won everything, and Rupert’s better at acting than her.
Pottershots.net= Rubbish. What a load of shit! why has every director who she worked with think high of her and why is she known as one take Watson, stop hating already and trying to make her look bad because your making yourself look foolish in the process.
this guy is REAL, and he does work in the HP films, I believe him, I mean Emma is a rubbish actress and that’s that….so deal with it, she is not a good actress and that is the truth, she’s been acting since she was 11 and she was good back then but now she seems tired of it, I mean I don’t blame her, it must be pretty hard to do for a long time without experiecing anything else, this is a tough business I’m telling you, and the only thing that keeps you in it is to be really REALLY sure that this is what you love doing, if you don’t have that is better to leave it but that is the point she CAN’T leave it, she SIGN a contract for another year, I mean people at that age want to be an actor, waitress, astronaunt, whatever and she CAN’T experience that because her life has been sold to a mega blockboster company, people grow up and change their minds about things so I think she did want to be an actress when she was 10 but now that she is older she realize that business is not meant for her and now she wants to have a normal life….I don’t know probably being a doctor or something else, so I don’t blame her for being a bad actress is just not what she wants and like I said THAT’S THAT.
So considering she’s an A student, and they’re saying she can’t memorize her lines is just bad taste, however for constructive criticism I will say she might want to tone down the “eyebrow acting.” Watch her eyebrows when you see her next, she uses them to emphasize the lines, which isn’t needed but then again she’s relatively new to acting. Plus considering she was nominated for how many awards now? I doubt they’re complaining about the acting, but this is just an opinion.
Let me guess: the traffic was low, so you pulled the emma-watson-obsessedhaters.com card again.
I don’t think so since you stupid teeny post about dan having a dinner was a blast, so I’ll assume you just want to keep it up.
By the way, great source!
I have one word to say to this………HATER!! HATER!!!
everyone who thinks Emma has superb acting skills- she DID. but EYEBROWS EYEBROWS EYEBROWS in the last two films! there must be a better way to convey emotions in a less distracting way.
This is rubbish.
I’m having a hard time believing that “news”. I was a professional child actor in the past, so I know that doubles don’t learn the lines - they’re there so that the crew can set up the shot (ie. lighting, camera angles etc.), or, in some instances, so that shots can be taken with the person from the back so the actual actor doesn’t have to be used. But they don’t learn the lines, so that to me is a red flag about the validity of that person’s claims.
To be honest all you have to do is watch the films and *bam!* your source is right there. Girl can’t act wortha.
are you guys idiots? phoenix is famous for being a body double for ootp and hbp, and has ALWAYS given accurate information, including this. it does not surprise me, but when he wrote the comment there, it was in regards to ootp, not hbp (he posted that last year, far before emma even began hbp). she was absolute shit in ootp, and you’re just a blind emma lover if you think otherwise. you going to call entertainment weekly magazine emma haters for saying the same thing about emma’s acting, too? this has nothing to do with emma’s work in hbp, and who knows, she might be better in the sixth one (which i sincerely hope), so just shut up and let’s wait for when that comes out.
people in charge of this site: i know you guys hardly do the work to check your news, but at least don’t write up utter bollocks, thanks.
I would have believed this, possibly, if it weren’t for the lines part. Emma has been doing this for five years and in the beginning seemed to have no problems with lines whatsoever and, even now, it’s not like Hermione really has too many lines so memorizing them shouldn’t be that difficult. Also, I wouldn’t see why the whole crew would be talking about Emma’s acting of all the subjects they could be on, to be honest.
I dont think this is beyond the realms of possibility. Emma has reached what is possibly the most testing time of her short career. Shes approaching 18 and so wants to go on nights out more and more this combined with leaches (paparazzi)following her everywhere and constant speculation about her private life in the press and on blogs etc. This is where we will all find out if Emma has what it takes to be a major actress or not. If she can get through the next 2 films without falling into the traps that some young actresses have made (Namely Lindsay Lohan) then she will be in a good position in the future. But judging by the people shes been spotted with recently i wouldnt say that this is out of the question at all.
I think that this is suppost to be an emma watson fan website. I am a real fan and would never say her acting is terrible or that she can’t-yes shes not the best but she wouldn’t have gotten in if she couldn’t act!
Uhm, to all the folks saying this guy is just a jealous, uninformed Emma-hater, etc: sorry to burst your bubble. Phoenix has been working on the HP movies since OOTP and has always delivered reliable information concerning the scripts - if you ever bothered to get spoilers for the movies on the imdb boards, you’ll know that he was the one who provided us with tons of script excerpts before OOTP even came out and that they were true. Same goes with the additional scene that was just confirmed for HBP - he was the first to tell us about it, so yeah, he IS quite reliable as an information source and DOES know stuff.
PLUS, he’s been *extremely* careful not to bash anyone, particularly Emma. He only replied to peoples’ questions on the imdb boards, and that’s obviously an impression he got from working on set these past weeks. Please note that he doesn’t seem to necessarily agree with the crew, so no reason to jump down his throat.
OMG its just because you like emma. I hate her acting! Its just way to much and i think her carrer end after the last movie.
LOL she got booyed lol
Well actually i dont mind her tbh. she’s okay but thats funny lol
“and i think her carrer end after the last movie” What the hell! This is what you get, when you give 12 year old little haters computers. Right Kathleen?
i don’t understand…can sumbdy explain dis 2 me..
This is Crap
Emm Has an almost photographic memory,She can read a page out of any book you give her a couple of times and then she can repeat 99% of it back word perfect.<-FACT!!
Ok she is not the best at acting as Hermione but it’s a crap role anyway. Wait untll she gets something that wasn’t originally written for a child.
She does enough in HP to be there.Dan is the best actor of the HP group by 100%
“Ok she is not the best at acting as Hermione but it’s a crap role anyway. Wait untll she gets something that wasn’t originally written for a child.
She does enough in HP to be there.Dan is the best actor of the HP group by 100%”
It’s actually sad that a ham of an actor like Daniel Radcliffe is touted as being the BEST in the trio. You know just how poor the other two’s acting really is. Don’t say Hermione is a crap role or that it was written for a child. If Emma had any value as an ACTRESS, she could’ve turned it into something AMAZING. That’s what truly GREAT actresses are able to do. To dig deep within their role and find TRUTH and project that back onto the screen. Emma has shown that she is utterly incapable of this in the past couple movies. She has not even shown any raw talent.
it’s comletly irresponsible to say something like this. why has this emma-”fan”-site published that article.
that can’t be true. probably someone said something like that, but emma is casted out of 1000s.
EMMA IS NOT GOOD ACTRESS but i wb keep her because sh eis very popular and you cant deny it evryone knows that wb cares only for money. and of course they praise her in public because she is very popular and that mean more watchers and more money
Why are you guys so quick to judge Phoenix123 as a hater? Can you guys not see with your own eyes just how untalented our dear Miss Watson truly is? Yes, she is pretty, but so are MILLIONS of other girls. SURE, when she was a little, she could go on her cuteness alone and she was picked NOT because of any inherent acting talent, but because she was a lot like Hermione’s character at aged 11. Her role required Emma to be bossy, arrogant, and snooty… Emma was all that!
Her winning so many popularity awards means jack SH*T and she’ll ultimately burn out if she doesn’t take this acting stuff seriously. Sure, she can take the other route and focus on garnering POPULARITY instead of working on her acting skills and be like Matt McConaughey, Rachel Bilson… hundreds of other Hollywood “actresses” who really AREN’T TRUE thespians, but movie stars. People who are entirely forgettable, basically.
aaaaand emma hadn’t very many chances to show how much talented she is. she has the same part since six or seven years. so you shouldn’t just judge by her part in harry potter.
“it’s comletly irresponsible to say something like this. why has this emma-”fan”-site published that article.
that can’t be true. probably someone said something like that, but emma is casted out of 1000s.”
Emma was casted out of 1000’s back in 2001, when she was an 11-year-old CHILD. You must understand the casting directors at the time weren’t sure if there were going to be 7 movies altogether. They picked EMMA simply because she
They wanted a child who MOST resembled the character they wanted them to play so that their PORTRAYAL would seem the most natural. Hence the reason why they went to SCHOOLS (not ACTING AGENCIES!) and ultimately found Emma. Even from interviews from that time, Emma came off as pretty bossy and “precocious” and that was EXACTLY what the casting people wanted: Emma wouldn’t have to act in order to come off to people as Hermione. As time went on, Emma has shown that she really doesn’t have much talent, and her heart … it truly does seem, isn’t in acting.
tracy: “aaaaand emma hadn’t very many chances to show how much talented she is. she has the same part since six or seven years. so you shouldn’t just judge by her part in harry potter.”
Well, she’s got agents working for her. If she wanted to prove herself, her agent could’ve found other roles for her. Instead, the only other part we’ve seen her done was “Ballet Shoes” which was frankly a pretty “safe” role, in which she was pretty forgettable … Compare this to DANIEL, who went VERY far out of his way to prove to the world he actually had serious acting chops by starring in EQUUS. Whether he was successful or not, it showed commitment and a genuine desire to ACT. EMMA DOES NOT.
“I love emma and I won’t stop loving her because of this. But I know she’s not a good actress. I mean, that “i think it’s a gift” bla bla bla thing, It’s a gift if you’re AL Pacino, or Sean Peen! But GOD she’s nor even gooda at acting. She’s not afraid of the cameras, that’s all.
I think Rupert’s the one who deserves all the prices and stuff and he hasn’t got anything amazing. Emma won everything, and Rupert’s better at acting than her.”
You can succed at anything if you have the heart and the perseverance to achieve it. Emma doesn’t even have the DESIRE, it seems, to improve her acting. You’re very right about Emma not being afraid of the camera. I’d wager that was quite a big part of the reason why she was picked for the role of Hermione. A) She had a cute little face, B) She was naturally bossy, arrogant, and cheeky — and adults undoubtedly found this adorable C) Her hair could be bushy; D) She and Rupert and Dan got along well. These, I’m convinced, were the main reasons why she was picked. Not because she had any awesome acting skills. SHE WAS 11 YEARS OLD AND WAS PICKED FROM HER SCHOOL!
Rubbish…yeah thats defintely from an hater.
Don’t this suckers ever get tired of this??
Honestly, all the harry potter actors are bad at acting! It ain’t just emma. The best one of them all is Rupert and he’s so underrated.
Well obviously she may have some trouble learning her lines since she’s still at school, trying to film a movie and study for her A levels at the same time.
OMG!
WTF?
god
It’s Emma Watson..what do they expect? An oscar-worthy performance? Bitch can’t act for shit and people should know that by now.
I can see how all you Emma fans want to think this is rubbish but this guy actually do works on the set as a double and have had acess to part of the scripts as well. He has been proven to be legit. I can’t say if this is actually true but It’s not just some random saying this anyway. I can’t see why he would make this up because he’s not a hater, then he would have said that he thought Emma was a bitch but he said that he didn’t. So I don’t see any reason for him to be making this up.
I don’t believe this. Emma can act, she’s not THE BEST ACTRESS EVER, but she can act. Trust me, i know worst people at acting.
Kerrie reply on March 28th, 2008:
Lol, who is worst then Emma? thats not possilbe!
Lol reply on March 28th, 2008:
Oh gawd blimey, where to start. Because this will always be about opinions, I’ll start with J-Lo, Li-Lo, Jennifer Aniston, Anna Poppelwell (”we had a little trouble along the way” - said with about as much emotion as a wet tea towell). There are plenty more I can think of but I wanna say something else.
There are many ‘actresses’ and ‘actors’ out there who could do with some formal lessons, or some grittier roles to help develop them. I thik Emma needs formal training and grittier roles. Alfonso Curaon had said he wanted to work with her again too, so maybe that’s a future avenue for her.
But Emma Thompson admitted once that as a teenager she was awful at acting and couldn’t take to it at all. She went off to Cambridge university before getting formal training and didn’t really develop in her craft until her late 20’s. She has since gone on to win two Oscars.
Now before you get your knickers in a twist - I’m NOT saying Emma Watson will one day emulate Emma Thompson. I AM saying let’s wait and see. Give her another decade to see if she is one of those late bloomers.
Writing her off with the kind of vitriole you’re doing just makes you *sound* like a bitter hater getting all bent out of shape because you can’t believe her luck and you’re lack of it.
Kerrie reply on March 28th, 2008:
Jennifer Aniston is a good actress (she’s not the best but she’s still grand) Jennifer Lopez is actually a great actress. Don’t get me wrong I don’t like her, i think shes a diva and very annoying but if you have seen “Enough” or that film with Richard Gere about the dancing she’s actually quite a good actress. Alfonso Cuaran was the only director who got Emma to seem anything like Hermione. In all the other films she’s unbearable. Um, I don’t know what you mean i can’t beleive her luck and my lack of luck. I don’t want to be an actress AT ALL! i would rather be bedhind the camera making movies. I agree that Emma would probably improve with some proper lessons but untill that day, she cannot act. The reason i’m bent out of shape about it is because i am a huge HP fan and her acting has ruined the films for me.
Lol reply on March 28th, 2008:
Her ‘acting’ hasn’t ruined the films for me at all. I don’t think she’s been great except in POA but neither do I think she’s a bad as you claim. Opinions seem to vary from person-to-person, and critic-to-critic on this topic. There’s nothing unusual about that (Dan and Rupert have also had their fair share of critics though - Rupert is by far my favourite but I’ve read bad reviews of his acting too). Emma certainly polarises opinion more than Dan and Rupert among the fans. Yes, the eyebrows and breathy talking are certainly annoying at times, at other times it’s how Hermione is. Hermione is described as having a shrill voice, of nagging, over-reacting. The real tests will come in the final installments.
But as much as there are ‘actors’ I don’t rate, I prefer to save my vitiole for politicians and terrorists, not a bleedin’ Harry Potter person who has yet to bloom.
This is definitely from an Emma hater
i agree with Maru
it isnt from emma hater it is from guy who works on hpb set
I really don’t like Emma. I don’t think she’s a god actor! .. Of course, i respekts peoples who like Emma. I love Bonnie, Angelica and Evanna. I just like emma, and think she is a snob /;
But it’s pretty hard to say that her’s acting is rubbish .
x Sorry for my bad english, i’m danish!
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I think this site is rubbish
“it isnt from emma hater it is from guy who works on hpb set”
yeah, a guy who says that works on hpb set, it’s not a fact.
Wtf??? Emma is a very good actress for her age!! Love her…:*) I think, this guy lies… he’s not from HP crew(
That article is complete rubbish! Just because Emma is a slower learner with her lines doesn’t mean that she is a rubbish actress. I think she’s a better actress than Miley Cyrus or any American actress. That’s an insult to actting. Emma Watson is a great actress
“have to admit she is pretty rubbish at learning her lines” -she’s very busy right now!!! why they’re not understand this?
Phoenix123 @ IMDB is a bonnie fan
That article is complete rubbish!
I think this site is rubbish
Melli Fearing
who is angelica?
this site is soooo rubbish!!! 4 reportin all this crap!!how can emma’s acting be bad u assholes who wrote this??when she gets a whole lotta awards!!how in the world can Yates hate her wen she speaks highly of him and him of her??and most of all-how can she b rubbish at her lines?!!4 God’s sake-emma is the best at learning her lines…why-she’s the smartest person on tht set…even rupert can learn his lines..and he din do good in school…so wht’s all this rubbish…her double??i met her double-she’s just a plain girl-she could never take over emma!she lacks everythin-also,tht’s wht her role is-only playing a double!
am disgusted wif d trouble idiots reportin this…some Emma hater or some freakin person who has no freakin life…go do something…yeah.
no matter wht u dumb ppl say-emma stays and she rocks and she will win all future awards cuz a lot of folks loveeee Emma..she’s da best HP star…and the most ambitious and successful one…cheers,Emma!
news posters/emma haters-go eat dung-then 4 once in ur life-u can c some light..
Emma’s not da best actress on the globe..but she sure is the best/most capable one on Hp set…far better than katie,bonnie,evanna etc..
plus emma has it more than others who dun study anyway…
will alwiz support emma 100% in anything she does-after all being a fan means acceptin her as she is…and she’s alwiz fabulous!!
Bonnie wright…plays ginny weasley in the harry potter movies. now we all know that ginny had a little crush on harry…not that we prepared ourselves for what happened. GINNY GOT HARRY!!!! that ugly gaytarded faggot tomboy ginny!!!! i dont like harry or daniel or anything…but come on they could have found plenty of girls that would have played a better ginny…she cant even act and they obviously didnt put her in many scenes because her face kept on breaking the camera! Bonbie wright needs to DIE!!!
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-655186.html
its easy to ceiticize somebody on a movie set, when your not willing to be named! I don’t believe any of it.
WTF!!! She gets a lot of AWARDS because she have a LOT OF FANS like you who vote for her even if she doesn’t deserve it, that why it’s call FAME, because they appear at tons of magazines, after-parties, and fashion events which creates more publicity and MORE FANS for them, just tell me WHO ON EARTH beats JUDI DENCH and KEIRA KNIGHTLEY??? I mean I don’t have anything against Emma I think she does the best she can, but she is trapped in this bubble because her fans can see the truth, SHE CAN’T CAN’T ACT, she knows it, but she keeps getting awards for it and gets confused. And if you are a TRUE FAN stop confusing her and let her lose against TRUE ACTORS.
Kerrie reply on March 28th, 2008:
I 100& agree. Yeah Like Emma is actually better the Judi Dench, i think not!! And Radliffe being better then Daniel Craig. I complete joke. They were the most stupid awards ever!
AYO is a bonnie fan
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No, I like Bonnie but I’m more of a Rupert, Daniel, Ralph Fiennes, Alan Rickman and Jessie fan
jessie??
omg
I think this site is: emma-watson-obsessedhaters.com
This site is run by people who LIVE ONLY to post anything and everything that takes a swipe at Emma. Kathleen starts to panic when the “news” gets slow and she has nothing to bash Emma with. So she goes to the guy from the film crew and begs for “news”.
And like magic, Kathleen gets to bash Emma again. First the guy apologizes for having nothing new to report and then tells us he doesn’t think Emma is a bitch. But Kathleen has to have something, so he tells us the crew is “moaning” about Emma’s acting. I wonder, is he talking about the WHOLE CREW?? Does the crew ever “moan” about anyone else, maybe even him?? Then he tells us David Yates doesn’t like Emma either. Gee, did Yates personally tell him that?
This stuff is too funny. It’s like it was written for 2-year olds. Must be another slow “news” day.
Well we have to realize this. These movies are not academy award material. Why should we expect her to be Julia Roberts or {insert name of you favorite actress here}? They don’t need to be dynamite actors because no one is taking these films that seriously except rabid flesh hungry fans. And FYI, I also don’t think Emma can act, but she is good enough for these movies. Rupert has always been and will always be the best and most underrated of the three.
Okay, If ya’ll think that Emma Watson is a horrible actress, thne you guys obvioualy have no idea what you guys are talking about. She is truly Hermione Granger. Fuck what these dumbasses say about her. I’m amazed that she didn’t quit when all the fucking rumors about her were going around. I’m proud her of, especially becuase she is making something of her life, when most of you are probably jobless and still living with your parents. I’m voicing my opinon about this, because Emma Watson has been Hermione Granger from the very beginning and if they did replace her, the movies wouldn’t haveb een the same. I mean, seriously so what is she has a “eyebrow raising” problem, she is a great actress and Rupert and Daniel are great actors. Just think what if they hadn’t casted these three great actors to play them, we’d probably watch people who were truly horrible and then the Harry Potter movies would be as popular as the yare today. You people seriously need to get lives if your just going to say shit about a person and you truly don’t know them. I don’t know Emma, Dan, or Rupert, but I know if I was them and I saw what rubbish people were saying about me, I’d probably go mad. All of you seriously need to think before you speak, also…You may think Emma stinks at acting, but at least she is trying to do something that she loves….when I bet half of you can’t even get infront of a camera without freaking out and being little wimp about it. When you guys finally get a life and stop writing like five yearso ld, trying to make emma look bad, then you might actually recieve a good message from fans of Emma Watson and not bad and rude ones.
I LOVE THIS SITE. =D
It creates such controversy.
heyyy!!! bonnie is beautiful and unique!!! she doesn’t try to look like a sexy actress she’s totally natural…
I agree that emma isn’t a good actress that’s obvious!
Oh please Hugo, get real. Bonnie have done well of the little she’ve been given so far. It’s for every sensible person to see. Clearly you are not that and you prove it very well by stating that she need to die just because you aren’t pleased with her acting performance.
I’m sorry, but theres no way this is true. If Emma was such a crap actress, then why does she win awards? Sure, she soetimes over acts, I’ll admit that, but she is an amazing actress. And as someone has said, body doubles do not learn lines. Their only there to do stunts. So if they do learn any, it will just be a few. And Emma would have no proble learning her lines, think about it. Learning lines is just the same as learning your GCSE and ALevel work, and she has no problem doing that.
Start posting some real news, or stop posting
Kerrie reply on March 28th, 2008:
amazing actress? HA don’t make me laugh thats the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard. She’s postiviley awfull! She only won a couple of awards and that was because Harry Potter was such a big thing at the time, because DH was being released two weeks after OOTP. Little kids were going to vote for anything to do with Harry Potter.
This thing is such rubbish. If Phoenix123 was really a double he’d know that they didn’t have to learn their lines. Doubles don’t learn lines. Why would a double have access to the script??? Other than by just being on the set that day.
This is such crap. Plus if she really was that bad at acting as you all claim she is then that would have shown through years ago. She wouldn’t have even gotten the role if she couldn’t act.
Plus she’s only 17 years old!!! Give her a break she’s not pushing 40! She’s only a teenager! She’s not going to win Oscars for it. Hermione is not a crap role. Plus the whole trio is talented everyone on the HP set wouldn’t be there if they weren’t good at acting.
I don’t believe a word of it. You guys are just trying to mold her into perfection and if she’s not perfect than you all take a stab at her. Leave the poor girl alone. She’s good at what she does or she wouldn’t be there at all.
She’s not the greatest actress that ever lived but she really does have potential.
Why is this site suddenly turning into a bashing site?
All of you Emma haters who are posting up the forums with criticisms about Emma should just stay on the Bonnie (or whichever one you fancy) part of the forum.
LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE SHE DOESN’T DESERVE THIS! She was cast as Hermione for a reason because she had what it takes and is good at acting. That Phoniex123 is complete rubbish.
definitely a slow news day.
this site is all about rubbish. they don’t know how to do anything else here.
Phoenix23 is not rubbish read the new news post